LISTEN: A Bull-DOGE-er to HHS

LISTEN: A Bull-DOGE-er to HHS

Abdul and Katelyn contend with a devastating week at HHS, including:

  • The loss of 20,000 workers
  • A massive restructuring at HHS
  • Senior leaders leaving the ranks
  • The addition of a discredited vaccine skeptic to analyze future data on the MMR vaccine

Then Abdul interviews Nat Kendall-Taylor and Julie Sweetland from the Frameworks Institute about new research on American attitudes around vaccine hesitancy, and how to frame productive public health conversations.

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